4b-30b-qwen3-backbones-trained-self-play-rl-where-same-model CLM-0003
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For 4B-30B Qwen3 backbones trained with self-play RL where the same model writes executable multi-turn tool environments (simulated tool schemas, backend state, per-instruction state checks) and then solves them, multi-turn function-calling scores rise, and the gain is largest on the benchmark whose task structure most closely mirrors the generated environments (ACEBench-Agent +13.9 at 30B-A3B) and smallest on the least similar one (tau2-bench +3.6).

Capability: Using the tools it is given

Observed on

Qwen3 4B/8B/30B-A3B instruct backbones; environments grounded in a 15k-document code pretraining corpus; GRPO training for 400 rollouts; benchmarks held out from training but the g.

Sources

  • Measured on three tool-use benchmarks (BFCL v4 multi-turn, tau2-bench, ACEBench-Agent) for three backbone sizes, each compared to its own untrained base. The base-model comparison is not compute-matched for the tool-use setting (the matched fixed-environment baselines were run only in the games setting), and the other synthetic-environment systems are transcribed from their own papers with different data, budget, and evaluation protocol. [truncated]
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Drafted from the paper by a model and filed unreviewed. Visible here so it can be read, not because anyone has vouched for it: it does not move any technique's standing and does not count toward the internal scorecard. Drafted confidence: medium. Falsifier as drafted: Applying the same self-play environment-generation training and finding no improvement over a matched-compute fixed-environment baseline on multi-turn tool-calling benchmarks, or finding the gain uncorrelated with how closely a benchmark's task structure matches the generated environments. Proposed technique, not catalogued: Self-play RL over model-generated executable Gym-style environments.