across-30-open-llama-mistral-qwen-models-8-classification CLM-0541
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Across 30 open LLaMA/Mistral/Qwen models and 8 classification tasks, a model's self-reported numeric confidence tracks its own logit-based confidence only weakly at the instance level (mean Pearson r about 0.135) even though setting-level averages of the two correlate moderately, and instruction-tuned models show larger linguistic-vs-internal gaps and worse calibration error than base models.

Capability: Saying it does not know

Observed on

Open-weight base and instruction-tuned models from three families; classification tasks with a fixed candidate set where logits over options are extractable, plus two generation ta.

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  • Measured over 30 models x 10 tasks with three axes (Pearson/Spearman, Euclidean distance, ECE) and paired t-tests; ECE difference significant (p=2.5e-8), correlation difference not (p=0.054). Regression attributes most variation to confidence-score dispersion and mean rather than model metadata. Logit softmax over options is a proxy, not ground-truth uncertainty, so the result is cross-channel fidelity plus a separate correctness-calibration measure; confidence elicited in the same turn as the answer, not post-hoc.
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Drafted from the paper by a model and filed unreviewed. Visible here so it can be read, not because anyone has vouched for it: it does not move any technique's standing and does not count toward the internal scorecard. Drafted confidence: medium. Falsifier as drafted: Measuring per-instance correlation between verbalized score and option-token probability across a comparable model set and finding consistently strong association (e.g. r above 0.5), or finding instruction-tuned models have lower linguistic ECE than their base counterparts. Drafted stance toward rlhf-tuned-chat-models-raw-conditional-probabilities-consistently-overconfident-confidence: contests -- This paper finds instruction-tuned models' verbalized confidence has significantly larger expected calibration error than base models' (0.287 vs 0.191) and only weak instance-level agreement with internal probabilities, cutting against the claim that verbalized confidence is better calibrated than conditional probabilities. Automatic check flagged: figures not in the source: 0.054.