calculator-using-model-trained-reinforcement-learning-verifiable-final-answer-rewards-arithmetic CLM-0028When a calculator-using model is trained with reinforcement learning on verifiable final-answer rewards for an arithmetic search task (Countdown), the gain lands almost entirely at low k — pass@1 rises sharply while pass@16 moves little or falls — because the update can only reinforce correct trajectories the starting policy already samples, and prompt groups with no correct sample supply no gradient.
Capability: Using the tools it is given
Observed on
Outcome-only (final-answer-verified) on-policy RL — RLOO, RLOO++, GRPO, DAPO — starting from a tool-formatted SFT checkpoint, on the Countdown 3- and 4-number task with a live calc.
Applies when
- Effect on the capability:
- helps, narrowly
- Needs:
- access to train the weights; an external signal (a test, a compiler, an environment outcome)
- Cost:
- high
- Fails when:
- The starting policy never samples a correct trajectory for a prompt, which supplies no gradient. The gain lands at pass@1; pass@16 moves little or falls.
Sources
- Measured on a fresh 1,024-problem held-out Countdown set (plus a noisy 50-problem public split) with 95% bootstrap intervals. Tool- RLOO went 35.8 to 56.6 pass@1 while pass@16 went 73.7 to 74.0; Tool- RLOO++ reduced pass@16 below Tool-RLOO. Correctness-distribution analysis over 16 samples per prompt shows mass shifting toward fully-correct sets and zero-correct prompts persisting. Tool-DAPO is a partial exception: it improved pass@16 modestly and cut the zero- correct fraction. [truncated]
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Notes
Drafted from the paper by a model and filed unreviewed. Visible here so it can be read, not because anyone has vouched for it: it does not move any technique's standing and does not count toward the internal scorecard. Drafted confidence: medium. Falsifier as drafted: An outcome-only RL run on the same setup that raises pass@16 by as much as pass@1, or that turns prompts with zero correct samples in the base policy into solved prompts without added search or process supervision.