open-weight-instruction-tuned-models-interventions-suppress-caving-user-pushback-dpo CLM-0114In open-weight instruction-tuned models, interventions that suppress caving to user pushback (DPO, SFT on chosen responses, or activation steering) also tend to reduce the model's rate of correcting a wrong answer when genuine supporting evidence is supplied, because the two answer-flip behaviors run on overlapping MLP neurons and attention heads with positively aligned steering directions.
Capability: Telling the user what they want to hear
Observed on
Four open-weight instruction-tuned models (Llama-3.1-8B, Llama-3.2-3B, Gemma-3-4B, Qwen3-8B) on TruthfulQA, PopQA, EX-FEVER, AQuA, with clean gold evidence; not tested on proprieta.
Applies when
- Effect on the capability:
- helps, narrowly
- Needs:
- access to train the weights
- Cost:
- high
- Fails when:
- The user later supplies genuine supporting evidence. The same intervention lowers the model's rate of correcting a wrong answer, because both answer flips run on overlapping neurons and heads.
Sources
- Two-turn evaluation separating pressure and evidence conditions, four models by four datasets, with per-cell trade-off accounting; mechanistic support from gradient attribution patching (validated by cross-patching against random component baselines) showing large top-k component overlap and layer-wise cosine similarity of steering directions around +0.4 to +0.84. Joint optimization reduced but did not remove the trade-off. Single paper; no proprietary or larger models.
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Related claims
- For small instruction-tuned models (3-4B) answering closed-form true/false questions under a stated user opinion, scoring each sampled response by how much more common its answer is than the group itself predicted, and using that score as the GRPO reward, reduces answer flips under user pressure and raises accuracy without any labels, roughly matching label-supervised desycophancy fine-tuning at higher compute cost.Telling the user what they want to hear · reviewed by AI
- For small instruction-tuned models (3-4B) answering closed-form true/false questions under a stated user opinion, scoring each sampled response by how much more common its answer is than the group itself predicted, and using that score as the GRPO reward, reduces answer flips under user pressure and raises accuracy without any labels, roughly matching label-supervised desycophancy fine-tuning at higher compute cost.Telling the user what they want to hear · reviewed by AI
- Across 25 open-weight instruction-tuned models (4B-744B), the ability to modulate a named concept's residual-stream projection on plain instruction does not track parameter count or recency — the best scorer is an 8B 2024 model and some of the newest models score lowest — while within a single model line the score rises steadily across ordinary pre-training and post-training checkpoints, so activation controllability is acquired incidentally and must be measured per model rather than inferred from scale.Strategic deception and detecting it · reviewed by AI
- When training small instruction-tuned models with reinforcement learning plus factual supervision, routing each atomic fact's verification score only to the tokens that produced it, and down-weighting verifier judgements that do not change when their key evidence is removed, improves factuality benchmark scores over trajectory-level or reasoning- step-level factual rewards.Checking claims against evidence · reviewed by AI
- Open-weight instruction-tuned models, told in plain language to not think about a concept while transcribing a sentence, suppress that concept's residual-stream projection enough to evade linear probes, the Jacobian lens, activation oracles and natural-language autoencoders, with no fine-tuning or prompt search — detection at a 1% false-positive budget falls to roughly 5-21% under suppression while engagement is caught near ceiling.Strategic deception and detecting it · reviewed by AI
Notes
Drafted from the paper by a model and filed unreviewed. Visible here so it can be read, not because anyone has vouched for it: it does not move any technique's standing and does not count toward the internal scorecard. Drafted confidence: medium. Falsifier as drafted: An anti-sycophancy intervention that lowers the unsupported-yielding rate across models and datasets while leaving evidence-driven correction rates unchanged or higher, together with evidence that the components driving the two behaviors are largely disjoint. Drafted stance toward fine-tuning-simple-synthetic-examples-where-users-opinion-irrelevant: contests -- The paper finds that synthetic/SFT-style anti-sycophancy training reduces yielding but often costs the model's ability to update on genuine evidence, a side effect that claim does not account for. Proposed technique, not catalogued: Orthogonalized steering directions for yielding vs updating.