4b-8b-qwen-vl-video-models-post-trained-on-policy-self-distillation-conditioning-frozen CLM-0530
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For 4B-8B Qwen-VL video models post-trained by on-policy self-distillation, conditioning the frozen self-teacher only on the annotated evidence frames (while the student sees the full video) yields a more accurate teacher and better student scores than giving the teacher the same frames plus non-evidence context, and teacher accuracy falls monotonically as temporally irrelevant frames are added.

Capability: Reasoning about time in video

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Requires ground-truth temporal evidence annotations in the training data; shown on three Qwen-VL backbones (2.5-VL-7B, 3-VL-4B/8B) with ~6.5K training examples and five video QA be.

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  • Validated by: Average over five video benchmarks against SFT, standard OPSD and GRPO on three backbones: Video-OPSD beat standard OPSD in all 15 backbone-benchmark pairs (+1.3 to +2.1 average points) and matched or slightly beat GRPO at ~40% of its training time; ablations show teacher training-set accuracy 70.4% with evidence frames only vs 64.9% with 8 padding frames and 49.8% with 16 uniform frames (no gold answer), and final average falls from 51.0 to 50.6 to 50.4 as 4 then 8 non-evidence frames are added.. [truncated]
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Drafted from the paper by a model and filed unreviewed. Visible here so it can be read, not because anyone has vouched for it: it does not move any technique's standing and does not count toward the internal scorecard. Drafted confidence: medium. Falsifier as drafted: A controlled run where the teacher given the full video (or evidence frames plus padding) produces equal or better student benchmark averages than the evidence-only teacher under the same data, frame budget and objective.